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	<title>Comments on: Wigan 2-3 Birmingham: Did you expect anything more?</title>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://wigan.illarterate.co.uk/2009/12/05/wigan-2-3-birmingham-did-you-expect-anything-more/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 22:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, i did expect Wigan to win this time. I put a lot of money on it too :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, i did expect Wigan to win this time. I put a lot of money on it too <img src='http://wigan.illarterate.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hindleyite</title>
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		<dc:creator>hindleyite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, I have absolutely no idea whether that was a free kick or not (still haven&#039;t seen a replay), but you can&#039;t deny it was far less important a decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, I have absolutely no idea whether that was a free kick or not (still haven&#8217;t seen a replay), but you can&#8217;t deny it was far less important a decision.</p>
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		<title>By: macca4</title>
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		<dc:creator>macca4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny how you seem to mention the free kick that wasent, that led to our opener,yet seem to forget that your second goal from a free kick, shouldnt have been either as it hit johnsons knee and not his hand,ummm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny how you seem to mention the free kick that wasent, that led to our opener,yet seem to forget that your second goal from a free kick, shouldnt have been either as it hit johnsons knee and not his hand,ummm.</p>
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		<title>By: hindleyite</title>
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		<dc:creator>hindleyite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 11:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alan: McLeish = my fave manager to visit the DW this season! All-round nice guy. He&#039;s quietly doing a good job at Birmingham, too, so I&#039;d say watch out for him staying in the Prem (Scottish Prem maybe?) in years to come.

@Bluenosesol: I had a perfect view of the Rodallega incident, and TBF he did lead with his hand. I do think Johnson overreacted just a tad, but there was a connection, not really a sending off IMO. I do think Birmingham should&#039;ve had a penalty in the first half, though, so I would point to that incident as the &#039;poetic justice&#039; moment for the mis-awarded free kick.

@ DD: You have a good point. I think the defence were to blame for one, maybe two goals today, though, and following on from the nine-goal drubbing (Sunderland doesn&#039;t count because their attack was tepid) they&#039;re either on terrible form or just not up to it. Hmm. Dunno what to think.

@ Gary: Well, dunno about fair, all my &#039;reports&#039; (note the inverted commas) are very biased towards Wigan, but anyway.... thought Probert wasn&#039;t too bad yesterday, though I will concede Birmingham were better at playing the ref than us.

Something else I forgot to mention, did anyone notice Rodders changed his gloves from white to black in the second half, like a reverse Michael Jackson? Methinks it had something to do with pugilism. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alan: McLeish = my fave manager to visit the DW this season! All-round nice guy. He&#8217;s quietly doing a good job at Birmingham, too, so I&#8217;d say watch out for him staying in the Prem (Scottish Prem maybe?) in years to come.</p>
<p>@Bluenosesol: I had a perfect view of the Rodallega incident, and TBF he did lead with his hand. I do think Johnson overreacted just a tad, but there was a connection, not really a sending off IMO. I do think Birmingham should&#8217;ve had a penalty in the first half, though, so I would point to that incident as the &#8216;poetic justice&#8217; moment for the mis-awarded free kick.</p>
<p>@ DD: You have a good point. I think the defence were to blame for one, maybe two goals today, though, and following on from the nine-goal drubbing (Sunderland doesn&#8217;t count because their attack was tepid) they&#8217;re either on terrible form or just not up to it. Hmm. Dunno what to think.</p>
<p>@ Gary: Well, dunno about fair, all my &#8216;reports&#8217; (note the inverted commas) are very biased towards Wigan, but anyway&#8230;. thought Probert wasn&#8217;t too bad yesterday, though I will concede Birmingham were better at playing the ref than us.</p>
<p>Something else I forgot to mention, did anyone notice Rodders changed his gloves from white to black in the second half, like a reverse Michael Jackson? Methinks it had something to do with pugilism. <img src='http://wigan.illarterate.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very fair assessment. The only things I would add are that not for the first time we seemed very slow off the blocks in the second half. I would suggest that we need to be the first out after half time (we are always second) just to see if that makes a difference. Birmingham also showed their experience, which although very frustrating, did work as they completely dominated the referee, whingeing and moaning about everything and conning him into some decisions, including the decisive free kick for the first goal. We should expect more from a Premier league referee but in truth Mr Probert was awful even when we were on top. Bobby has to get us more street wise and we need to show more character when things go against us. I&#039;m confident he will do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very fair assessment. The only things I would add are that not for the first time we seemed very slow off the blocks in the second half. I would suggest that we need to be the first out after half time (we are always second) just to see if that makes a difference. Birmingham also showed their experience, which although very frustrating, did work as they completely dominated the referee, whingeing and moaning about everything and conning him into some decisions, including the decisive free kick for the first goal. We should expect more from a Premier league referee but in truth Mr Probert was awful even when we were on top. Bobby has to get us more street wise and we need to show more character when things go against us. I&#8217;m confident he will do so.</p>
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		<title>By: DD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dodgy defence? It&#039;s the same defence as last season, maybe it&#039;s whats in front of them thats causing the problem?</description>
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		<title>By: Bluenosesol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluenosesol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also forgot to mention that Rodallega deliberately punched Johnson in the face causing him to stream with blood. Brave man eh?!! Should have been down to 10 men at 0-0, so poetic justice that we equalised from a mis-awarded free kick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also forgot to mention that Rodallega deliberately punched Johnson in the face causing him to stream with blood. Brave man eh?!! Should have been down to 10 men at 0-0, so poetic justice that we equalised from a mis-awarded free kick.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for pointing out that Alex McLeish signed autographs for fans. He is a great gentleman, is showing what he can achieve on a limited budget AND is a non-whinger, unlike some managers who have been in charge at both our clubs.</description>
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